• No server operator needs to federate with you.
  • No server operator needs to tolerate things they don’t want on their instance.
  • No user of an instance needs to personally curate their own extensive never ending blocklist of users and channels they don’t want to see.

Quit your pseudo-intellectual whining and choose what instance(s) work for you. If you think regularly interacting with shit content somehow helps you stay out of an echo chamber then go ahead and make a second account on those garbage instances full of hateful people. Then you can read both the decent servers and the trash ones and be the fedora wearing ackshually right fair and balanced uber nerd you always wanted to be.

Edit: The huge number of upvotes on this post compared to the low numbers on the whiney imposers’ posts is proof of exactly where this community places its priorities.

  • Matt Payne@sh.itjust.works
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    Right, I guess you would tell immigrants they’re free to join another country.

    Thanks for calling it “whining” when people engage in conversation about how to organize. You seem nice and tolerant. Not toxic, lover of safe (cruel?) spaces.

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      Yes, because selling your home and moving your family and all your belongings several hundred miles is exactly equivalent to making a second lemmy account. Expecting sever owners who invest time and money into this to cater to your wants when making a second account is too hard is fair and doesn’t come off as whiney behavior at all either.

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        exactly equivalent

        Nothing is “exactly equivalent” to anything unless it’s two identical numbers. The analogy is definitely legit. You’re telling people to GTFO.

        Expecting sever owners who invest time and money into this to cater to your wants

        This applies much better to people asking server owners to block instances.

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          This is true, nothing is exactly equivalent, bad choice of words. It’s not remotely equivalent either though. An equivalent scenario would be if immigrants showed up to the border, and were turned away, but also had a 1000 other places the could go within a few feet. And it applies to everyone making demands of server owners. Make an appeal for your wants. If they ignore it, find a server that fits better.

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            Yes it is equivalent, because you’re telling your fellow humans to LEAVE instead of discuss things on a public forum. It’s obviously weird and petty to tell people to leave.

            And yet the mods aren’t harassing me and I’m not harassing the mods. I’m discussing the benefits of connection with all the other federated users. And a very small number of people are petty enough to tell me to leave. “We don’t discuss things 'round here. Giiit out!”

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      I believe in being kind to kindness and cruel to cruelty.

      The garbage trash instances (ie. exploding-heads) are cruel, they get cruelty in return. It’s a moral imperative to NOT be nice to them.

      This is nothing like immigration and that point is so bad it’s not even wrong it’s just nonsense.

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        You’re not being cruel to the “garbage trash instances,” you’re being cruel to your fellow Lemmy-users who you accuse of “whining” as they express their opinions about federation.

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          We’re talking about defederating with the garbage trash instances. Specifically exploding-heads.

          All defederation thus far has been about not connecting to the hate (EH, lemmygrad, etc.). No one is trying to defederate with reasonable instances.

          No one on these instances is my fellow anything. They can go wallow in the cesspits where they belong.