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Cake day: June 12th, 2023

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  • it’s not “my opinion” though, it’s something Beehaw’s owners have stated multiple times over the past however long have I had an account there.

    Your opinion or theirs. It’s obvious that you agree with it. I’m not trying to persuade you to have a different opinion. I really don’t care.

    I do appreciate you not hiding the fact that you are a member there.

    But my point is that just because they give some rationale that sounds good at first glance, that doesn’t mean that I am incorrect either.

    I think any group that is restricting registration of new users - regardless of their goals or justification - is being elitist because it is restricting to only people some select few in charge deem “worthy” or in some cases, such as tildes random invite drops with extremely short time-windows, are more likely to gather users in particular time zones/regions. Maybe you dislike me using the term “elitist” for this but to my thinking, they are essentially trying to create echo chambers and are considering large segments of the Internet population as undesirables. They can put a marketing spin on that and call it “weeding out racists” or creating a safe space whatever they want but it doesn’t change the underlying facts. I see plenty of sites that avoid these kind of things without resorting to such exclusionary tactics.

    And if this comes across as me trying to pin that solely on beehaw, that’s not my intent. I feel equally so about tildes. Again, you may disagree. That’s fine. I don’t care either way. I am very passionate about free speech, even for those I dislike and disagree with. And it is less that I wish to look down on beehaw/tildes/etc and more that currently, my opinion of them is that they are promoting censored communities, which is something I am opposed to. Perhaps that isn’t actually the case, or maybe they will change things. My opinion isn’t set in stone, and I am happy to revise it if and when new information presents itself. But as things stand now, that is how I see things.

    https://i.vgy.me/WvmUNs.jpg

    Heh good one. Meant it more in the sense that they would probably not allow such a name there but yes, let’s go with me trying to be “edgy” ;-)

    Anyway, as I said in my previous comment, I am not advocating to defederate with them. But if they later get butthurt about something on kbin and decide to defederate us, I doubt that I would even spare it a thought.

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  • I find it a bit ironic how so many people are pointing out how “growing is important to federation” specifically in reference to this… but at the same time, beehaw are one of the few sites that are against growth (as can bee seen by their requiring to get approved in order to join their server… which IMO is no better or worse than tilde’s invite requirement)… and, given the timing, it would seem that they are against hosting reddit refugees in particular.

    Yes, you can claim it is for keeping beehaw’s site stable or curating users or plenty of other more palatable reasons. But at the end of the day, you are still turning users away. I have a lot of respect for kbin not closing its doors to new users, despite the load it is placing on their infrastructure.

    Personally, I wouldn’t mind one bit if kbin/beehaw were defederated from each other (not advocating for it, just saying I wouldn’t care whatsoever if it happened on its own)