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  • You have defined legitimate casinos as only ones that don’t rig games or do scams. A priori you are correct.

    There are enough illegitimate online casinos to create a problem for the whole industry.

    Online casinos = scam

    explain what economic incentive do legitimate casinos (licensed) to rig game

    They don’t have enough users so they need to squeeze their regular punters harder.

    Even your beloved “legitimate” casinos do “rig” games by offering different odds at different times to different people. They scam people by restricting the amount that can be withdrawn (and other ToS tricks). They create user interfaces to maximise player losses.


  • we are talking about your “taxonomy”

    No. That’s what you are trying to forum slide to.

    I’m sticking to the point that online casinos are scammy, including legitimate, regulated operators.

    You might not be able to distinguish a legitimate casinos by a fake one,

    Not just me. Any average Joe.

    but if in your opinion legitimate ones also rig games, this is irrelevant.

    Your doggedness for wanting agreement that some casino games may not be rigged is impressive

    what users can tell is a completely separate problem.

    But a problem very much related to “what’s wrong with online casinos”.




  • It’s YOUR definition

    Nope. It’s you who is obsessed with separation of “legitimate casinos”.

    YOU said, legitimate + fake = online. I asked to which you applied the answer and you said online.

    Correct

    Now you are saying it doesn’t?

    Incorrect.

    So, do we agree that legitimate casinos don’t rig games?

    You have defined legitimate casinos as ones that don’t rig games.

    Also, you mentioned taking a cut to help laundering money,

    Incorrect. I said casinos are used to launder money.

    now you are retracting saying “are exposed”.

    No retraction necessary.

    • do legitimate casinos rig games?

    Online casinos rig games. You have defined legitimate casinos as ones that don’t rig games. A normal internet user cannot tell the difference.

    • do legitimate casinos help laundering money?

    Yes. Not necessarily knowingly. Income from internet gambling is tainted.




  • The point is simple “industry” doesn’t contain the scammers who try to abuse it.

    It does. To illustrate this I linked to a bank website containing advice on combating phishing.

    Here’s the definition I’m happy with.

    Legitimate casinos = established businesses in the casino industry

    Fake casinos = scammers

    Online casinos = legitimate casinos + fake casinos

    Combined because users find it hard to tell the difference.



  • If we are talking about banking sites, and - say - we discuss the security measures needed on them, nobody would think to include phishing sites into the discussion, because it’s meaningless.

    Incorrect. Learn to recognize ‘spoofing’ and ‘phishing’

    was obviously referring to the businesses which run online casinos

    Incorrect

    OP was clearly talking about actual gambling businesses.

    Incorrect. OP clearly wrote “online casinos”.

    You clearly have a guilty conscious about the money you earned from gamblers. Or you are being paid for this shilling.

    The problem with online casinos is that they are associated with a huge number of scams.


  • You instead provided 0 explanation about what you are claiming.

    See links above why scamming and online casinos are linked.

    They are not banking sites lol

    You are not approaching this from a user perspective

    If it looks like a banking site, then it is banking site.

    If it looks like an online casino then they are an online casino.

    The initial question “why are online casinos bad” clearly referred to businesses which…run online casinos

    Incorrect.


  • My argument is that casinos don’t need to scam by rigging games.

    And this opinion is incorrect. I would accept that some online casinos don’t need to scam by rigging games.

    A scam site is no more a casino than a phishing site is a banking site.

    Incorrect. I’ve posted multiple examples of online casino scams, including rigging the games.

    Do you think banking sites are scams?

    Some are.

    Now you are defending the hill that some scammers use casinos as their vector for scams, which is a completely different thing, that nobody questioned also.

    Look at the top of this thread. The question was “Why are online casinos bad”.